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Get E*TRADE and start trading today. start trading today.>>>NEW PRESSURE ON DONALD>>>NEW PRESSURE ON DONALD TRUMP’S SUBORDINATES SIGNALING TRUMP’S SUBORDINATES SIGNALING THE IMPEACHMENT INVESTIGATION OF THE IMPEACHMENT INVESTIGATION OF UKRAINE IS CLEARLY ESCALATING. UKRAINE IS CLEARLY ESCALATING. TOP COMMITTEE CHAIRS SUBPOENAING TOP COMMITTEE CHAIRS SUBPOENAING RICK PERRY, WHICH TRUMP HAS RICK PERRY, WHICH TRUMP HAS TRIED TO AT TIMES BLAME FOR ALL TRIED TO AT TIMES BLAME FOR ALL OF THIS. OF THIS. IT COMES AS TWO KEY IMPEACHMENT IT COMES AS TWO KEY IMPEACHMENT WITNESSES WERE ARRESTED TODAY, A WITNESSES WERE ARRESTED TODAY, A STORY WE’VE BEEN RECOVERING, AND STORY WE’VE BEEN RECOVERING, AND A NEW REPORT REVEALING WHITE A NEW REPORT REVEALING WHITE HOUSE AIDES ARE DOING A HOUSE AIDES ARE DOING A DISAPPEARING ACT TO AVOID DISAPPEARING ACT TO AVOID QUESTIONS, DODGING REPORTERS, QUESTIONS, DODGING REPORTERS, THEY DON’T WANT TO BE ON THE THEY DON’T WANT TO BE ON THE RECORD. RECORD. THEN THERE ARE THE QUESTIONS THEN THERE ARE THE QUESTIONS FACING MIKE PENCE. FACING MIKE PENCE.>>WERE YOU EVER AWARE OF THE>>WERE YOU EVER AWARE OF THE INTERESTS INVESTIGATING THE INTERESTS INVESTIGATING THE BIDENS WAS AT LEAST PART OF THE BIDENS WAS AT LEAST PART OF THE REASON FOR AID TO UKRAINE BEING REASON FOR AID TO UKRAINE BEING HELD UP? HELD UP?>>I NEVER DISCUSSED THE ISSUE>>I NEVER DISCUSSED THE ISSUE OF — THE ISSUE OF THE BIDENS OF — THE ISSUE OF THE BIDENS WITH PRESIDENT ZELENSKY AND — WITH PRESIDENT ZELENSKY AND –>>WERE YOU EVER AWARE OF THE>>WERE YOU EVER AWARE OF THE ADMINISTRATION — ADMINISTRATION –>>WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT>>WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT ALL OF OUR DISCUSSIONS ALL OF OUR DISCUSSIONS INTERNALLY, THE PRESIDENT AND INTERNALLY, THE PRESIDENT AND OUR TEAM AND OUR CONTACTS AND MY OUR TEAM AND OUR CONTACTS AND MY OFFICE WITH UKRAINE WERE OFFICE WITH UKRAINE WERE ENTIRELY FOCUSED ON THE BROADER ENTIRELY FOCUSED ON THE BROADER ISSUES OF THE LACK OF EUROPEAN ISSUES OF THE LACK OF EUROPEAN SUPPORT AND CORRUPTION. SUPPORT AND CORRUPTION.>>WERE YOU EVER INTERESTED IN>>WERE YOU EVER INTERESTED IN THE BIDENS BEING INVESTIGATED THE BIDENS BEING INVESTIGATED AND WAS THAT TIED TO AID TO AND WAS THAT TIED TO AID TO UKRAINE BEING HELD UP? UKRAINE BEING HELD UP?>>THAT’S YOUR QUESTION.>>THAT’S YOUR QUESTION.>>ADAM GOLDBERG IS A FORMER>>ADAM GOLDBERG IS A FORMER SPECIAL ASSOCIATE WHITE HOUSE SPECIAL ASSOCIATE WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL TO PRESIDENT CLINTON. COUNSEL TO PRESIDENT CLINTON. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING.>>THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.>>THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.>>WHAT DO YOU SEE AS IMPORTANT>>WHAT DO YOU SEE AS IMPORTANT HERE? HERE?>>FOR ME I THINK WE HAVE TWO>>FOR ME I THINK WE HAVE TWO CABINET OFFICIALS AND THE VICE CABINET OFFICIALS AND THE VICE PRESIDENT WHO ARE ALSO AT RISK PRESIDENT WHO ARE ALSO AT RISK OF BEING IMPEACHED AND NOT JUST OF BEING IMPEACHED AND NOT JUST CONVICTED AND REMOVED FROM CONVICTED AND REMOVED FROM OFFICE, BUT ALSO OFDISQUALIFIED OFFICE, BUT ALSO OFDISQUALIFIED FROM FUTURE OFFICE. FROM FUTURE OFFICE. RIGHT NOW PEOPLE ARE TALKING RIGHT NOW PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE MAGIC NUMBER OF 20, ABOUT THE MAGIC NUMBER OF 20, THE NUMBER OF REPUBLICANS NEEDED THE NUMBER OF REPUBLICANS NEEDED TO GET TO 67 AND REMOVE TO GET TO 67 AND REMOVE PRESIDENT TRUMP FROM OFFICE, BUT PRESIDENT TRUMP FROM OFFICE, BUT FOR ME THE MAGIC NUMBER MOST FOR ME THE MAGIC NUMBER MOST IMMEDIATELY IS FOUR. IMMEDIATELY IS FOUR. IF WE CAN GET FOUR REPUBLICAN IF WE CAN GET FOUR REPUBLICAN SENATORS, THEN WE MIGHT HAVE SENATORS, THEN WE MIGHT HAVE ENOUGH SENATORS TO A MAJORITY TO ENOUGH SENATORS TO A MAJORITY TO DISQUALIFY PRESIDENT TRUMP, DISQUALIFY PRESIDENT TRUMP, SECRETARY POMPEO, SECRETARY SECRETARY POMPEO, SECRETARY PERRY, VICE PRESIDENT PENCE FROM PERRY, VICE PRESIDENT PENCE FROM HOLDING FUTURE OFFICE. HOLDING FUTURE OFFICE.>>WHEN YOU LOOK AT PENCE, DOES>>WHEN YOU LOOK AT PENCE, DOES HE HAVE EXPOSURE? HE HAVE EXPOSURE?>>SECURITY ADVISER WAS ON THE>>SECURITY ADVISER WAS ON THE FATED PHONE CALL BETWEEN FATED PHONE CALL BETWEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE, HE GOT A PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE, HE GOT A READOUT OF THAT CALL, AND THEN READOUT OF THAT CALL, AND THEN IT’S BEEN REPORTED THAT IN HIS IT’S BEEN REPORTED THAT IN HIS CONVERSATIONS WITH PRESIDENT CONVERSATIONS WITH PRESIDENT ZELENSKY HE TALKED ABOUT ABOUT ZELENSKY HE TALKED ABOUT ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THEM FIGHTING THE IMPORTANCE OF THEM FIGHTING CORRUPTION. CORRUPTION. THOSE WERE CLEAR CODE WORDS THAT THOSE WERE CLEAR CODE WORDS THAT HE KNEW ABOUT. HE KNEW ABOUT.>>IN YOUR ARGUMENT, WHEN THEY>>IN YOUR ARGUMENT, WHEN THEY SAY CORRUPTION, THAT’S CODE FOR SAY CORRUPTION, THAT’S CODE FOR BE CORRUPT WITH US? BE CORRUPT WITH US?>>THAT’S RIGHT.>>THAT’S RIGHT. BECAUSE PRESIDENT TRUMP ON THAT BECAUSE PRESIDENT TRUMP ON THAT PHONE CALL WITH THE PRESIDENT OF PHONE CALL WITH THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE MADE VERY CLEAR THAT UKRAINE MADE VERY CLEAR THAT CORRUPTION WAS INVESTIGATING JOE CORRUPTION WAS INVESTIGATING JOE BIDEN AND HIS SON AND HE WAS BIDEN AND HIS SON AND HE WAS INVESTIGATING THIS CRAZY INVESTIGATING THIS CRAZY CONSPIRACY ABOUT UKRAINE CONSPIRACY ABOUT UKRAINE INTERPEERGINTER INTERPEERGINTER INTERFEREING IN OUR ELECTIONS INTERFEREING IN OUR ELECTIONS INSTEAD OF RUSSIA. INSTEAD OF RUSSIA.>>WE HAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT IN>>WE HAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT IN THE PRESS AND IN WASHINGTON AND THE PRESS AND IN WASHINGTON AND IN IN POLITICAL CIRCLES ABOUT IN IN POLITICAL CIRCLES ABOUT THE IDEA THAT DONALD TRUMP DOES THE IDEA THAT DONALD TRUMP DOES SEEM TO GET AWAY WITH MORE SEEM TO GET AWAY WITH MORE THINGS THAN OTHER PRESIDENTS. THINGS THAN OTHER PRESIDENTS. DO YOU THINK IN SOME SENSE THAT DO YOU THINK IN SOME SENSE THAT MAY BE THE PROBLEM OR THE HUBRIS MAY BE THE PROBLEM OR THE HUBRIS THAT UNDID HIM HERE? THAT UNDID HIM HERE? BECAUSE HE HAS REALLY BEEN BECAUSE HE HAS REALLY BEEN MAKING THIS UP AS HE GOES ALONG, MAKING THIS UP AS HE GOES ALONG, AND AS WE JUST REPORTED A LOT OF AND AS WE JUST REPORTED A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND HIM APPEAR TO PEOPLE AROUND HIM APPEAR TO THINK THIS ONE IS DIFFERENT. THINK THIS ONE IS DIFFERENT. THEY’RE GOING DARK. THEY’RE GOING DARK. THEY’RE QUIET. THEY’RE QUIET. THEY SEE THEMSELVES AS HAVING THEY SEE THEMSELVES AS HAVING EXPOSURE. EXPOSURE. IN YOUR ROLE AS A COUNSEL IN A IN YOUR ROLE AS A COUNSEL IN A WHITE HOUSE, DO YOU THINK THAT’S WHITE HOUSE, DO YOU THINK THAT’S THE RIGHT STRATEGY FOR THEM? THE RIGHT STRATEGY FOR THEM?>>SO THEIR STRATEGY IS CLEARLY>>SO THEIR STRATEGY IS CLEARLY JUST TO LIE AND CONTINUE LYING JUST TO LIE AND CONTINUE LYING ABOUT WHAT THEY DID AND HOPING ABOUT WHAT THEY DID AND HOPING THAT ENOUGH PEOPLE BELIEVE THE THAT ENOUGH PEOPLE BELIEVE THE LIE AND COME TO BELIEVE THE LIE. LIE AND COME TO BELIEVE THE LIE. WHEN I WAS IN THE CLINTON WHITE WHEN I WAS IN THE CLINTON WHITE HOUSE, THAT WAS NOT OUR HOUSE, THAT WAS NOT OUR STRATEGY. STRATEGY. WE COUNTERED AND SAID WHAT THE WE COUNTERED AND SAID WHAT THE PRESIDENT DID WAS NOT PRESIDENT DID WAS NOT IMPEACHABLE, SUBJECTED HIM TO IMPEACHABLE, SUBJECTED HIM TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE. BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE. WE WENT TO WORK — WE WENT TO WORK –>>DID YOU COOPERATE WITH THE>>DID YOU COOPERATE WITH THE CONGRESS? CONGRESS?>>WE SURE DID.>>WE SURE DID. WE PROVIDED WITNESSES. WE PROVIDED WITNESSES. WE TESTIFIED BEFORE THEM DURING WE TESTIFIED BEFORE THEM DURING THE HOUSE IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS THE HOUSE IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS THEMSELVES. THEMSELVES. ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY.>>IT’S VERY INTERESTING GIVEN>>IT’S VERY INTERESTING GIVEN YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND YOUR PERSONAL YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE ADAM GOLDBERG, I HOPE EXPERIENCE ADAM GOLDBERG, I HOPE YOU’LL COME BACK ON “THE BEAT”

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