Keane on what Trump needs in a new national security adviser


JOB.>>JOINING ME AS — VIRTUE OF THOUGHT ON THE KISSINGER MODEL. AND, THERE’S BEEN A FAIR AMOUNT OF DISRUPTION, THOSE PERSONALITIES ARE INVOLVED IN DOING THAT. THE PRESIDENT IS CLEARLY NO LONGER A JOURNEYMAN AND FOREIGN POLICY AND NATIONAL SECURITY. WE KNOW WHERE HE WANTS AMERICA TO GO, AND I THINK HE WANTS US SMOOTH SAILING SHIP AROUND HIM. AND, THAT SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR. LISTEN, SECURING FOREIGN POLICY IS NOT LIKE DOMESTIC POLICIES. MAKING A DECISION THAT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO REVERSE AND THE STAKES ARE VERY HIGH, THEREFORE PICK PEOPLE WHO KNOW AND HAVE EXPERTISE IN THE KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU MAY NOT HAVE. ALSO PICK PEOPLE YOU LIKE BECAUSE THE STRESS IS SIGNIFICANT. WE WILL SPEND A LOT OF TIME AROUND THEM AND YOU LIKE SOMEONE WHO HAS KNOWLEDGE TO HELP YOU, THE WORKING RELATIONSHIP IS SO MUCH BETTER. HERE I THINK WE HAVE POLICY DISAGREEMENTS AS WELL AS PERSONALITY CONFLICTS AND I THINK BOTH PEOPLE, HE PROBABLY NEEDS TO GET SOMEBODY ELSE. SPEED LIMITS OF ONE OF THE BIGGEST QUESTIONS GOING FORWARD IS, WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR POLICY? THE PRESIDENT HAS EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN DISCUSSIONS AND SECRETARY POMPEO SAID IT’S POSSIBLE. HE SAID SURE, IT’S POSSIBLE THEY COULD SIT DOWN EVEN LATER THIS MONTH AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER WHEN THEY ARE AT THE U.N. WHAT DOES NOT INDICATE TO YOU ABOUT THE DIRECTION THAT THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO GO WITH ALL OF THESE BIG ISSUES AND DIALOGUE LIFTING SANCTIONS?>>FIRST OF ALL THERE’S ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT. ANYONE WHO SPENDS ANY TIME WHATSOEVER KNOWS THAT HE’S DRIVING FOREIGN POLICY AND NATIONAL SECURITY DECISION-MAKING AND POLICYMAKING IN THIS COUNTRY. UNEQUIVOCALLY SO. THAT BEING THE CASE, HE’S ALSO SOMEWHAT UNCONVENTIONAL IN THE DEGREE THAT HE WANTS TO EXERCISE DIPLOMACY PARTICULARLY WITH OUR ADVERSARIES. HE WANTS TO TRY THAT, EVEN THOUGH OTHERS HAVE FAILED AT DOING JUST THAT. AND THAT’S NOT GOING TO CHANGE. SO WHAT WE HAVE TO HELP THE PRESIDENT DO IS STRUCTURE THAT AS BEST AS POSSIBLE TO TRY TO PUT IN PLACE THE NECESSARY STAFF WORK THAT IS REQUIRED TO SET THE PRESIDENT UP FOR SUCCESS IN THOSE KINDS OF MEETINGS. BUT THEY WILL CONTINUE I DON’T BELIEVE THE NATION HAS THE LEAST BIT OF RISK TALKING TO THEM, AND THAT’S A FIRM POSITION ON WHAT THE UNITED STATES STANDS FOR AND WITH THE DESIRED OUTCOME IS ON THESE NEGOTIATIONS.>>Martha: IT BEFORE I LET YOU GO, THERE’S A LINE OF THINKING THAT SAID THE COUNTRY IS LESS SAFE WITH JOHN BOLTON NOT IN THE ROOM. HE AVOIDS — OBVIOUSLY HE’S A HARD LINE, AND HIS THOUGHTS ADDED TO THE MIX WAS KEEPING US SAFE. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT?>>I DON’T BUY THAT. I DON’T THINK THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR, AND I BELIEVE THEY HAVE ONE OF THE BEST CHIEF DIPLOMATS, AND THAT’S A STRONG TEAM AROUND THE PRESIDENT. PRESIDENT HIMSELF NOW HAS THREE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE UNDER HIS BELT. IF YOU PUT THAT TOGETHER, THAT’S WHAT’S KEEPING AMERICA SAFE. NO ONE PERSON BY THEMSELVES AS DOING THAT SO, THAT’S SOME HAND-WRINGING I BELIEVE IN TERMS OF WHAT TOOK PLACE HERE AND I AGREE WITH A LOT OF THE POLICIES THAT JOHN BOLTON HAD TO. LET ME JUST DECLARE THAT. BUT NONETHELESS IN AND OF

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